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|FTA|Nofear
05-10-2004, 11:00 PM
Well at last i got my connect3d x800 pro. I read some articles saying that if it is VIVO -which it is, that i can be soft modded to an x800xt. Has anyone done this and/or could you tell me how this is done. I will look on the web a bit more to try and figure out how hard it is and what you would have to do.

Baz
06-10-2004, 12:12 AM
Ill soon be trying to hard mod my x800 pro - just need to find some silver conductive paint

Grenage
06-10-2004, 12:21 AM
Aye, it's easily done:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=1371898

GP
06-10-2004, 12:39 AM
hmm

GP
06-10-2004, 12:41 AM
i want one of them cards

Rex Hunt
06-10-2004, 07:10 AM
Why would you want to do it, them cards must be very fast anyways and the increase in speed you wouldn't even notice with the naked eye.

Spam
06-10-2004, 07:34 AM
bollocks to me buying the non-vivo version!
shit!

|FTA|Nofear
06-10-2004, 02:34 PM
Cheer grenage, dunno if i'll attempt it now (anyway it would b easier to do if i have a floppy drive) but some day..... :banana:

Grenage
06-10-2004, 02:36 PM
Aye it's easy enough mate, when the time comes ;)

Baz
06-10-2004, 06:13 PM
HARD MOD
its a piece of piss - just join 2 contacts on the gpu and its an xt

plus

a x800pro with 16 pipelines OUTPERFORMS an x800xt at same clock speeds

its just the xt has better ram and thus its clock speeds can go lots lots lots higher

Bonce
06-10-2004, 06:51 PM
I think pro VIVO's have the XT core and 1.6ns RAM, theyre basically just underclocked XT's

Humour
06-10-2004, 10:35 PM
Altough the 800XT and Pro variants are great cards, I fail to see the point of buying one if the 9800Pro still does the job perfectly well, especially at the asking price!

What I find odd though, is the fact that the PCI-Xpress variant of the same card is clocked lower by: 20MHZ GPU, and 120MHZ RAM, to an equivalent 800XT on a AGP Bus :confused:

Personally I think buying an 800XT for an AGP bus is just for braggin rights and a waste of money! This is because the AGP technology is being phased out already and is being replaced by PCI-X which offers much higher transfer bandwidth. So your shiny new 800XT will be obsolete within a year or two :rolleyes:

For those with bills to pay and not alot of money, the wiser bet is to wait until the 800XT halfs in price and then upgrade to an PCI-X card, along with a new mobo (one supporting PCI-X) and a 64Bit CPU and join the 64Bit revolution, thus taking a step or two up with the upgrade in every aspect of the rig, not just the GFX ;) Then you will really see improvements in performance as well as be set for the future and the innevutable "perfect" (my ass) 64Bit OS from Gaylord Gates.

No Im not jealous :P I like to plan what "candy" Im going to buy and when Im going to eat it ;)

Peace

Jingles
06-10-2004, 10:56 PM
So your shiny new 800XT will be obsolete within a year or two

That'd never happen with computer hardware

bobby
06-10-2004, 11:04 PM
humor .... pci x is in its early early stages.
we have many test systems @ work...
half dont work.
ddr2 is very unstable

atm moment the performace increase between agp pci-x is minimal

Daggz
06-10-2004, 11:10 PM
the x800 series allows you to run games like doom3 and hl2 in full everything with no problems. i ran doom3 with full AA and everything in the settings wacked up

Humour
07-10-2004, 09:24 AM
humor .... pci x is in its early early stages.
we have many test systems @ work...
half dont work.
ddr2 is very unstable

atm moment the performace increase between agp pci-x is minimal

I agree Boob, but the motherboard generations move fairly quickly along with processor changes, how long do you think it would be before 64Bit becomes the norm? I give it a year and a half at most. By that time mobo's would be second and third generation with most of the problems ironed out.

The point Im trying to make it that people are splashing out on £300++ for an AGP card they will most probably be looking to sell in a year's time, and wont get anywhere near the money they paid for it. Look at the 9800Pro, I bought mine for £280, only 6 months down the line its retailing at around £130 quid :eek:

Im only speaking for myself ofcourse, but I do not intend to be upgrading my system any further for a year or so, and then I'll be looking for a cheap FX CPU with a cheap 800XT :D I just fail to see the point of spending this much dosh just so I can have maximum candy on games which look good without that anyway.

Peace

Jingles
07-10-2004, 12:06 PM
It depends how much you are prepared to spend on gaming. If its something you do a lot, it really doesn't work out that expensive compared to doing other money-absorbing things.

|FTA|Nofear
07-10-2004, 02:13 PM
Look at the 9800Pro, I bought mine for £280, only 6 months down the line its retailing at around £130 quid :eek:

Wow you got owned there :P i bought an 9600xt about 6 months ago and got hl2 free. It cost about £100 quid and i sold it for £55. So because i got hl2 i only really lost 100-35-55 which is about 10 quid :P And then i saved £60 on the x800 pro costing £240-cheaper than that 9800pro u bought 6 months ago and it is already running at x800 xt clock speeds which are 520 core and 560 mem at full load only reaching about 38 degrees celcius!, i just need to open the extra 4 pipelines now. I therefore think it was worth the money for me

bionic
09-10-2004, 10:53 AM
Yep, I'm waiting for the PCI-Xpress thingy to become the norm before I rebuild my PC. Until then I'm sure my FX5900 can handle everything I throw at it. If it gets too hot I'll just splash water on it :)
No-fear why mess with your x800 pro - it shouldn't need anything doing with it to run everything smooth as a babys bottom

Grenage
09-10-2004, 01:55 PM
the x800 series allows you to run games like doom3 and hl2 in full everything with no problems. i ran doom3 with full AA and everything in the settings wacked up

Ah but doesn't doom 3 need a graphics card with 512mb memory to run at absolute maximum eh? ;)

Daggz
09-10-2004, 02:16 PM
512mb i think u mean 256mb :D